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David Price

2G-grandfather of Norma Margaret Oliver

Born: 

1791 Lampeter, Cardiganshire, Wales

Baptised:

20 Nov 1791 St Peter's Church, Lampeter, Cardiganshire, Wales

Married: 

1 Mar 1816 St Bledwrs Church, Bettws Bledrws, Cardiganshire, Wales to Anne Jones

Died: 

5 Apr 1871 Pentrebach, Lampeter, Cardiganshire, Wales. Age 80

Cause of death:

Old age

Buried: 

8 Apr 1871 St Peter's Church, Lampeter, Cardiganshire, Wales

Timeline

Nov 1791

Mar 1816

Apr 1816

1822

1825

1830-1861

1867-1871

Apr 1871

Baptised at St Peter's Church, Lampeter, Cardiganshire, Wales [1]

Married Anne Jones at St Bledrws Church, Bettws Bledrws, Cardiganshire, Wales [2]

Lived with family at Dolaugwyrddon, Lampeter, Cardiganshire, Wales and worked as a farmer [3]

Lived with family at Dolaugwyrddon Uchaf, Lampeter, Cardiganshire, Wales and worked as a labourer [4a and 4b]

Lived with family at Cwmman, Lampeter, Cardiganshire, Wales and worked as a labourer [5a and 5b]

Lived with family at Pentrebach, Lampeter, Cardiganshire, Wales and worked as a farmer [6a and 6b] [7] [8] [9]

Lived with son at Ffynnonlas/Green Well, Pentrebach, Lampeter, Cardiganshire, Wales and worked as a farmer [10] [11]

Died of old age at home at Ffynnonlas/Green Well, Pentrebach, Lampeter. Buried at St Peter's Church, Lampeter, Cardiganshire, Wales [12] [13]

Biography

Early years

According to his baptismal record, David was baptised at St Peter's Church on 20th November 1791, the son of John and Mary Price [1].

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Lampeter is the Anglicised version of the word Llanbedr, which is a shortened form of the name of the town in Welsh, Llanbedr Pont Steffan, "St Peter's Church by Stephen's Bridge". The "bridge" in question was actually a timber Norman castle, occupying a strategic position on the nearby River Telfi. Although the Norman castle is long since gone, it speaks to the long history of the town itself and its relative importance in the area as a prominent market town. Historically, as many as eight fairs were held in Lampeter per year [14]. 

St Peter Church Lampeter

St Peter's Church, Lampeter, Cardiganshire

Marriage and life in Pentrebach

At the age of 25, on 1st of March 1816, he married Anne Jones at St Bledrws, the parish church of Bettws Bledrws, a hamlet north of Lampeter [2]. At the time of their marriage, Anne was heavily pregnant - she gave birth and they had baptised their eldest son, John, only a month-and-a-half later, on the 14th of April 1816 [3].

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St Bledrws Church, Bettws Bledrws, Cardiganshire

In those early days, David worked as a labourer at Dolaugwrddon, "green meadow", a pair of farmhouses by the small hamlet of Pentrebach, at the edge of the parish of Lampeter. Then, as now, there was a farmhouse at Dolaugwyrddon-uchaf, "the high green meadow", and a farmhouse at Dolaugwyrddon-isaf, "the low green meadow", demonstrating the descriptive nature of Welsh place names. David and his family lived at Dolaugwyrddon-uchaf.

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Farmhouse at Dolaugwyrddon Uchaf, Pentrebach, Lampeter, Cardiganshire

Map of Lampeter and surrounds showing Pentre-bach Cwmman Fronbedr and Dolaugwyrddon-uchaf.

Map of area surrounding Lampeter. Dolaugwyrddon Uchaf marked with green pin

In 1825, David and his family were living at Cwmman, a hamlet south-east of Lampeter, just across the River Telfi and, although still part of the parish of Lampeter it was located just over the county border in Carmarthenshire[5a and 5b].

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By 1830, the family had returned to hamlet of Pentrebach, "small village", at the outer limits of the parish of Lampeter. In the 1841 census, we can see that David and his family were the only ones living at Pentrebach. David was by then a farmer and we know from the 1851 and 1861 censuses that the farm at Pentrebach was 18 acres [6a and 6b] [7] [8] [9].

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It was an important place to the family, so much so that David's great-great-granddaughter was able to recall the name over 150 years later in the 1990s (although, by that time, her memory had corrupted it slightly to "Penprybach") [15].

Death of wife and latter years

David's wife Anne passed away of old age in February 1861 - although Anne's place of death was given as Pentrebach, David's address was given as Fronbedr, a large farm associated with his father and located on the road between Pentrebach and Lampeter (Fronbedr is clearly seen on this map, next to the "Urban" of "Lampeter Urban"). 

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By 1867, David was living with his son Thomas at Ffynnonlas, "blue well", near to Green Well. This was located just off the main road that passes through Pentrebach. In fact, David's location in 1871 was variously given as Green Well, Pentrebach and Ffynnonlas, depending on the source you look at [10] [11] [12] [13].

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However, a view of this map in 1888 and this map in 1900 gives us a clue to this seeming disparity - the two maps show that Ffynnonlas and Green Well seem to occupy the same spot, just south of Myrtle Hill, to the east of Pentrebach. The similarity in names (blue well vs green well) also suggest they may have been one and the same place (blue and green often having overlaps in language), or at least next to each other.

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After his death and burial at St Peter's Church in Lampeter in April 1871, David's will was proved by his daughter Mary, the executrix of his will. David had written the will four years earlier, in 1867 and in the will he made the following provisions [10]:

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  1. Bequeathed 1 shilling to his son, Ebenezer Price. Although there is no basis in English law, the habit of bequesting 1 shilling to a family member was taken to demonstrate they were cut out of the will. Ebenezer had moved from Wales to London in the 1840s but the likely cause behind the snub was Ebenezer's serious legal issues. In 1857 he had fallen into bankruptcy but absconded and re-styled himself as Ebenezer Price Jones. In 1861, the law caught up with him and he was arrested for bankruptcy, failing to surrender himself to the bankruptcy court, embezzling with the intent to defraud and obtaining credit with the intent to defraud. He was subsequently sentenced to serve 18 months in prison [17] [18]. 

  2. Bequeathed £20 to his son David, providing there was as much left in his estate when he died. £20 in 1871 was worth approximately what £3,000 would be worth today (2024).

  3. Bequeathed £5 to his granddaughter Eliza in Newport - she was the daughter of David's eldest son John, who died in 1863.

  4. Bequeathed 1 shilling to his son, Thomas Price however, this was unlikely to have been meant as a snub, as Thomas was also bequeathed half of all David's furniture and all his personal belongings. In this context, the 1 shilling likely represented that Thomas had otherwise been compensated with David's household and personal effects. 

  5. Bequeathed to his daughter Mary half of his household furniture and all that had belonged to her mother.

Source information

  1. David Price, Baptismal record, St Peter Lampeter Parish Register [Church of England], 20 Nov 1791, Ancestry [www.ancestry.co.uk

  2. David Price and Anne Jones, Marriage record, St Bledrws Bettws Blerws Parish Register [Church of England], 1 Mar 1816, Record no: 9, Ancestry [www.ancestry.co.uk

  3. John Price, Baptismal record, St Peter Lampeter Parish Register [Church of England], 14 Apr 1816, Record no: 46, Ancestry [www.ancestry.co.uk

  4. David Price [page 1 and page 2], Baptismal record, Tabernacle Chapel Lampeter Parish Register [Calvinist Methodist], 8 Dec 1822, Ancestry [www.ancestry.co.uk

  5. Ebenezer Price [page 1 and page 2], Baptismal record, Tabernacle Chapel Lampeter Parish Register [Calvinist Methodist], 8 Aug 1825, Ancestry [www.ancestry.co.uk

  6. Mary Price [page 1 and page 2], Baptismal record, Tabernacle Chapel Lampeter Parish Register [Calvinist Methodist], 20 Jun 1830, Ancestry [www.ancestry.co.uk]  

  7. David Price [1841], Census return for Pentrebach, Lampeter, Cardiganshire, The National Archives of the UK, Ancestry [www.ancestry.co.uk

  8. David Price [1851], Census return for Pentrebach, Lampeter, Cardiganshire, The National Archives of the UK, Ancestry [www.ancestry.co.uk

  9. David Price [1861], Census return for Pentrebach, Lampeter, Cardiganshire, The National Archives of the UK, Ancestry [www.ancestry.co.uk

  10. Will of David Price, Probate granted 12 May 1871 at Carmarthen, Probate Search, UK Government [probatesearch.service.gov.uk]. Will written in 1867.

  11. David Price [1871], Census return for Green Well, Lampeter, Cardiganshire, The National Archives of the UK, Ancestry [www.ancestry.co.uk

  12. David Price, England & Wales Death Certificate, Registered 2nd Quarter 1871 in Lampeter, Record no: 321, General Register Office [www.gro.gov.uk]

  13. David Price, Burial record, St Peter Lampeter Parish Register [Church of England], 8 Apr 1871, Record no: 458, Ancestry [www.ancestry.co.uk

  14. Lampeter, Wikipedia, Last edited 19 Jul 2024 [en.wikipedia.org

  15. Conversations with Norma Margaret Oliver, daughter of Ellen Ruby Price Lane

  16. Anne Price, England & Wales Death Certificate, Registered 1st Quarter 1861 in Lampeter, Record no: 366, General Register Office [www.gro.gov.uk]

  17. A fraudulent bankrupt twice absconding from his creditors, London Evening Standard, 9 Oct 1861, page 7, FindMyPast [www.findmypast.co.uk]

  18. Ebenezer Price Jones, England & Wales Criminal Registers 1791-1892, London Central Criminal Court, 6 Jan 1862, Ancestry [www.ancestry.co.uk

Personal map

Map of places from David's life

Family members

Parents

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John Price

1757-1847

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Mary Walters

c1765-1834

Siblings

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Elinor Price

1787-1870

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Thomas Price

1794-

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John Price

1797-1851

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Alse Price

1800-1800

Wife

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Anne Jones

1791-1871

Children

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John Price

1816-1863

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Thomas Price

c1820-1894

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David Price

1822-1902

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Ebenezer Price

1825-1898

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Mary Price

1830-1913

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